As Ryan said in his speech, it's the height of arrogance to say that we know everything. I agree that she's done a tremendous amount of research on athlete abuse. She's defined it and she's identified it, but that doesn't help us with the system necessarily. We can all agree that there is abuse in the system.
Where I was troubled, as a board member, was that the harassment officer role at GymCan—I think it could be similar in other sport organizations—was a volunteer position, from what I understood. There was no oversight. There was no accountability for the person in that role. It's almost like the role was built around someone they thought they could trust decades ago. The role evolved; the sport got worse.
I don't know if she or anyone in that role would ever feel pressured by a CEO to not say certain things. I outlined at least three instances in my testimony where I thought someone who was going to have the moral courage to stand up for athletes would have done so, but in fact, she or they—I don't know exactly—decided to not even do a safe sport investigation. They decided to handle it like an HR complaint.
The problem with that is then that coach actually went out into the community and started telling people he was let go for safe sport reasons. The CEO of GymCan had already put a statement out telling the community it was personal reasons. Then he was allowed to coach at other clubs because we hadn't done a safe sport investigation that would have likely labelled him inappropriate.