I'm going to jump in. I have six minutes. It's not to be disrespectful.
I want to ask you a few more questions specifically about racism and the anti-racism work you're doing. We see in the media, constantly, overt cases of racism. There's also the hidden face of racism in many different sectors.
From your experience, have you witnessed, either directly or indirectly, forms of racism that may be more covert than overt?