I have definitely witnessed it and experienced it. Unfortunately, everybody can say they want to be more diverse. In hiring, people are saying they want to put in place anti-racism, or have more minorities in certain positions to represent our country. People's actions are not matching their words.
For example, we have 63 NSO leaders right now, and three of them are from a minority group. That's out of 63. People keep saying there aren't many minorities to hire in certain positions, but when minorities do apply for positions, they say, “Well, you don't have enough experience in the sports sector.” They're saying one thing and doing another. It hasn't been matching.
The only reason I keep doing what I'm doing is to really help bring a voice to it. I'm that voice for people who can't sit at that table right now. I'm hoping we can definitely see change by bringing back some of the programs that worked in the 1990s. That's when sport was for all, and everybody felt included.