Evidence of meeting #96 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was journalists.
A recording is available from Parliament.
November 2nd, 2023 / 10:15 a.m.
Conservative
Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON
Mr. Chair, I had my hand up to speak to the motion. Then I wanted to speak to the amendment, so I lowered my hand and raised my hand. It's kind of hard, virtually, to be sure that I'm getting on both lists.
I just want to make sure I'm on both lists.
Bloc
The Vice-Chair Bloc Martin Champoux
Ms. Gladu, you're quite right to make that comment.
I was going to say, if we receive the French translation and resume debate on the amendment, that there will have a new list of members who wish to speak. Your name is on there. And Mr. Noormohamed's.
Liberal
Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC
I would like to clarify one thing, Mr. Chair.
If we suspend the meeting, we come back to where we were, when we come back. If we adjourn the meeting, we go back to committee business.
Is that correct?
Liberal
Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC
If we are currently suspended.... Mr. Julian has to go and we also have to go to other committees and meetings. Can we adhere to the time of the committee, suspend this meeting, depart and then recommence where we were?
Conservative
Ziad Aboultaif Conservative Edmonton Manning, AB
If you'll allow me to explain this, the meeting was suspended, basically. The chair came and called the meeting before the clock ended and there's a motion to adjourn from Mr. Julian.
That's basically what's taking place.
Bloc
The Vice-Chair Bloc Martin Champoux
On that, Mr. Aboultaif, I must correct you.
Mr. Julian has moved to adjourn on a point of order, which he cannot do. There is no formal motion to adjourn at this time.
We will suspend the meeting until the translation of the amendment is made available to all members.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
Mr. Chair, before you do that, I have a point of order.
You're an excellent chair, but with all due respect, I'm going to challenge your ruling. We regularly move to adjourn a meeting during points of order.
Bloc
The Vice-Chair Bloc Martin Champoux
I'm not denying your right to challenge my ruling.
I am informing you that I made this decision based on the recommendations and advice of our clerks. I would like to point out that our clerk, Jacques Maziade, is celebrating his 33rd anniversary today. He was sworn in as a lawyer 33 years ago today.
So you are challenging my ruling and Mr. Maziade's ruling, Mr. Julian. You have every right to do so. I will therefore ask the clerk to proceed with a vote.
The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Geneviève Desjardins
The chair asks if his ruling shall be sustained.
(Ruling of the chair overturned: nays 8; yeas 2)
Bloc
The Vice-Chair Bloc Martin Champoux
The chair is overruled.
This is a very sad way for me to end my role as alternate chair of this committee.
I want to thank all of you, colleagues. You've been amazing. You have provided tremendous support. Ms. Desjardins and Mr. Maziade, our clerks, have been fantastic, as have the analysts and the team of interpreters.
The meeting is adjourned.