Evidence of meeting #19 for Declaration of Emergency in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was industry.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Drew Dilkens  Mayor, City of Windsor
Jim Willett  Mayor, Village of Coutts
Joint Chair  Hon. Gwen Boniface (Senator, Ontario, ISG)
Claude Carignan  Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
Peter Harder  Senator, Ontario, PSG
Dennis Glen Patterson  Senator, Nunavut, CSG
Stephen Laskowski  President, Canadian Trucking Alliance
Brian Kingston  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association
Geoffrey Wood  Senior Vice-President, Policy, Canadian Trucking Alliance

8:25 p.m.

President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

They were officials responsible for border crossings and dealing with public health.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Can you give us their names, please?

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President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

What names would you like, sir?

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

The names of the people you spoke with.

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President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

I deal with multiple people at Transport Canada, at CBSA and at Health Canada. I'd have to look through my Rolodex to go through them all.

Would you like them all?

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Yes, please send them all to us.

Did you speak with anyone at Public Safety Canada?

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President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

8:25 p.m.

Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Who exactly did you speak with?

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President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

It would be directly with those responsible at CBSA for cross-border—

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

I'd like their names, Mr. Laskowski.

8:25 p.m.

President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

Again, I'd have to go through my Rolodex and get you all these names.

8:30 p.m.

Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Was it with people at the minister's office or in the department?

8:30 p.m.

President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

CTA deals with individuals at both the bureaucratic level and the political level.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

Do you deal with them regularly? I ask because you aren't even able to name one of them.

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President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

Exactly, sir. I don't understand what you want with names. What are the specific issues?

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

I want the names of the people at the Minister of Public Safety's office you spoke to.

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President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

I can't remember all the names off the top of my head.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

It's not all of them.

Give me at least one name, please.

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NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

Could we please bring the questions back through the chair, just for the purpose of making sure our guests have the ability to respond?

You could restate the question.

8:30 p.m.

Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

I take it, Mr. Laskowski, that you can't give me the name of a single person at the Minister of Public Safety's office whom you spoke to. Is that correct?

8:30 p.m.

President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

Sir, I do not see why names are relevant.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

That isn't for you to say. Only I need to know why I'm asking the question. Your job is to answer it, Mr. Laskowski. That's why you're here today.

Am I wrong? Did you not know you were going to have to answer questions?

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President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

I've done these meetings for almost 30 years, sir. No one has ever asked me to name someone.

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Bloc

The Joint Chair Bloc Rhéal Fortin

You are appearing for the first time before the Special Joint Committee on the Declaration of Emergency, a joint committee of the House of Commons and the Senate created to review the use of the Emergencies Act in February of this year, Mr. Laskowski. Don't tell me you've been doing this for 30 years, because this is the first time a meeting like this has taken place.

You were told that you would have to answer questions, were you not?

8:30 p.m.

President, Canadian Trucking Alliance

Stephen Laskowski

Correct, and this is the first time in 30 years someone has—