Absolutely. I mean, if the police have complete operational independence, then they're essentially self-governing, and they're restrained only by the fact that we have good police that are generally restrained.
To go back to the McDonald commission, they always said that policy of operation was a matter for the responsible minister, but it's too easy for the responsible minister or the police service board to say, no, that's a matter of operation. That's why I was quite distressed to see again in Bill C-303, which I think is a worthy effort, this mantra of operational independence, which is extremely confusing. Justice Morden had to devote 100 pages of legal analysis to try to elucidate it, and his messages obviously didn't make it to the Ottawa Police Services Board.