Madam Chair, I remember Ms. Bogden well. She was a senior public servant with the Privy Council Office. Personally, I didn't see the report or the document being quoted by my friend Senator Carignan. I took part in those meetings with cabinet and the incident response group. At the time, a number of senior public servants and law enforcement officials were describing a dynamic situation in a number of locations across the country, over which different authorities had jurisdiction. I don't know how many people were standing in front of any one hydro pole along Wellington Street at a given time.