Evidence of meeting #9 for Declaration of Emergency in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was laws.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joint Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Paul Cardegna
François Daigle  Deputy Minister of Justice and Deputy Attorney General of Canada, Department of Justice
Peter Harder  Senator, Ontario, PSG
Joint Chair  Hon. Gwen Boniface (Senator, Ontario, ISG)
Claude Carignan  Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
Larry W. Campbell  Senator, British Columbia, CSG
Jenifer Aitken  Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Central Agencies Portfolio, Department of Justice
Rob Stewart  Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

8:40 p.m.

Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Right.

Did they offer tow trucks because the Prime Minister of Canada had told the President of the United States that our problem was that we didn't have any?

8:40 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

The problem was that we weren't able to move all the people and all the trucks.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Right. The United States offered you tow trucks.

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Were they American tow trucks that came to tow Canadian vehicles away?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Right. At that time, however, the Emergencies Act had not yet been invoked.

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Right.

Apart from the tow trucks issue, did you take part in the decision-making process for reopening the Ambassador Bridge?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

No. It was a police operation.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

What police force was it?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

It was the Ontario Provincial Police.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Right.

Did it work with the Windsor Police Service?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Did it work with the RCMP?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

The RCMP was not involved?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

A little, yes. We received a request for assistance from the mayor of Windsor, but I think most of the police officers who participated in the operation belonged to the Ontario Provincial Police.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Right.

Did the dismantling go well?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

I believe so.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

What is the difference between the operation of reopening the Ambassador Bridge and the one that took place here to unfreeze Wellington Street, we might say, apart from the call from the President of the United States and the fact that it was an international bridge?

8:45 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

You want to know the difference...

June 7th, 2022 / 8:45 p.m.

Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Yes. Except for the use of the American tow trucks that came to tow the trucks, what were the different powers that made it possible to resolve the situation there and that could not be exercised on Wellington Street? In fact, I still can't believe that Canada requested help from American tow trucks, but it seems to be true. I understand that there were barbecues and even a hot tub to be moved, on Wellington Street, and that might have called for different methods, in logistical terms.

What was different in the case of the Ambassador Bridge?

8:45 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

I'm not an expert on police operations, I'm a public servant. I think the protest in Ottawa was on a larger scale and more powers and tools were needed to move all the people and trucks.

8:45 p.m.

Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

What tools are you talking about?