Evidence of meeting #9 for Declaration of Emergency in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was laws.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joint Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Paul Cardegna
François Daigle  Deputy Minister of Justice and Deputy Attorney General of Canada, Department of Justice
Peter Harder  Senator, Ontario, PSG
Joint Chair  Hon. Gwen Boniface (Senator, Ontario, ISG)
Claude Carignan  Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
Larry W. Campbell  Senator, British Columbia, CSG
Jenifer Aitken  Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Central Agencies Portfolio, Department of Justice
Rob Stewart  Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

I'm talking about up to that point.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

On February 12, the Ottawa Police Service said “we ... await the necessary reinforcements to do so.”

Do you know how many additional police it requested?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

Initially, I think it requested 1,800 officers, according to the former police chief.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

Ultimately, nearly that many police were sent.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Right.

Did you send those police?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

The RCMP sent about 1,000 officers.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

What was the date when they were sent?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

It was the middle of the following week.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

So it was after February 14.

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Those police had been requested before that, though.

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

Yes. They were requested almost at the beginning.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Right.

Were you aware that the City of Ottawa would not ask the Canadian army for tow trucks?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

No. I'm not aware of that.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

Right.

So you have no knowledge of the fact that on February 10, the general manager of emergency and protective services for the City of Ottawa, Kim Ayotte, said that he would not ask the army for tow trucks because it was like asking the army to come to Ottawa.

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

No, I'm not aware of that.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

You don't read Le Soleil?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

I was aware that there were discussions concerning the army in general.

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

However, concerning the army tow trucks...

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

You didn't hear that comment by Kim Ayotte, a City of Ottawa official, on February 10?

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Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

No, I had no conversations with...

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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C

Claude Carignan

It wasn't brought to your attention? It wasn't highlighted in your media review?

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NDP

The Joint Chair NDP Matthew Green

Thank you.

That brings our rounds to a close. I'd like to thank all the witnesses for being with us this evening. You are certainly free to go. I appreciate your contribution to the discussion tonight.

We do have a matter before the committee that needs to be resolved. It has come to our attention that Interim Chief Bell of the Ottawa Police Service is unable to attend our next meeting. I would like to propose that we invite former police chiefs Peter Sloly, Charles Bordeleau and Matt Torigian for that particular session to provide us with....

I'm sorry. It's the 21st. I should remind us that the next meeting we have is on June 14.

Yes, Senator Boniface.