I think it comes back to a misunderstanding of taxpayer value. There was a really big push for a long time in this country to make sure that we were not wasting money when we were buying things. The private sector does a lot of the same stuff, so this isn't pointing a finger at just the public sector on this, but what ends up happening in a lot of cases, Mr. Blaikie, is that the government looks only at initial purchase price. It does not look at—to take Mr. McSweeney's comment, for example—the life cycle, install price or operational performance. It looks only at the initial purchase price because that's what government procurement is reviewed in terms of, and that is how the government looks at things. It's not looking at the longer-term impacts of these things.
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