Thank you, Chair.
Thank you to the witnesses. I want to commend you for always coming out to these trade-related committees and giving your well-thought-out answers and insights into what's happening.
I agree with what Mr. Grant said, and Mr. Verheul as well, which is that we don't want to antagonize our neighbours to the south and that, hopefully, we'll work out a diplomatic or a negotiated solution. There are provisions, I believe, under ISDS. We still have three years under USMCA and other protective measures under our trade agreements so that we can protect such arrangements.
My curiosity, when it comes to Line 5, is whether the Governor of Michigan is more concerned with just that one particular area, the Straits of Mackinac component. I understand there's a permit that the state has given for tunnels underneath to have it more protected there. Is her attitude on this that if that is done, she's okay? Is she forcing this decision to get the replacement in place—and if that is done in a satisfactory manner, she doesn't have an objection to the line overall—or is her objection to the complete line and fossil fuels in general?