That's really helpful.
I have a question, then, for both of you.
I'm going to put two questions together, because I only have four minutes. The first relates to your members on both sides of the border. We here are concerned particularly about the Canadian members, but we also care about the union members on the U.S. side. In that case, wouldn't many of them lose their health care and other benefits in the event that they lost their jobs? Here we have medicare so people won't lose their primary health care, but in the U.S. wouldn't many of your members, if they lost their jobs as a result of Line 5 shutting down, actually lose their health care? Shouldn't that be of concern to the Michigan Legislature and Governor Whitmer?
My second question is about the fact that Enbridge had mentioned they were recommending that the Government of Canada, the Government of Ontario and other provinces intervene in the Enbridge lawsuit. Do you have a position on that?
I will go quickly to Sean and then Joe.