Yes, and it's become a diplomatic issue now, based on the very unilateral decision of Governor Whitmer of Michigan. It's now a diplomatic and legal issue.
As for energy east, I think we all know some of the difficulties around that. One would need, again, a private proponent. The pipeline would cross a number of provinces, so again, Bill C-69, the environmental assessment act, certainly would come into play. Every province involved would have to be on board, so it's not an effortless thing to overcome, but it certainly would be a desirable one.
With regard to Mr. Blaikie's point earlier about where product is going, I guess it's so important to keep in mind—with regard to Minister Savage's points—that there is a very clear export aspect to this and that price is affected for smaller and larger operators through the differential as a result of the fact that they can't get product to tidewater because it's interrelated also through exports like potash, uranium and many commodities. It's not only a buy local, stay local sector. I think that is absolutely crucial to point out.
Obviously, energy east would be buy local, stay local, except to get to the refineries out east, but as we say, it's not as if that isn't an issue now, certainly, with the Panama Canal situation we saw last year. That was to get to a refinery out east, and the company had to use the Panama Canal to get to a refinery in its own country. It's not as if contortions aren't taking place here, and we have to address them through whichever means possible, including this issue with Line 5.