Mr. Blaikie, that's exactly what we're trying to do here in Sarnia. It's critically important we recognize that things are changing very rapidly. That's why we have Bioindustrial Innovation Canada. We've approved a number of projects that are now being developed on the former Dow site, which was a major industrial place.
We have looked at other things. We are now focusing on hydrogen. I'm really pleased to see that the federal and Ontario governments—and I believe the Alberta government—are now looking at hydrogen seriously. We looked at it as a community 10 years ago and we couldn't make it work economically. Now we're manufacturing hydrogen here. The local college is developing probably 10 to 15 hydrogen-based projects on the research side.
I know exactly what you're trying to get to, which is that no one's really pulling it all together and saying that we can advance in this area. I tell people in this community.... I've been unpopular at times because I said we've got to change, instead of standing up and saying that we're not going to change—you need to change—so just leave us alone.
The reality is that if we don't change, we'll be dinosaurs. We have the opportunity going into hydrogen. Even Line 5 has reminded us of the value of fossil fuels and also how we can start to look—and need to continue to look—to find other ways with added value, instead of shipping it to the United States.
To me, added value in Canada is the key.