We've heard that a lot, actually, in our hearings.
Thank you so much to both of you for a very engaging discussion.
I mentioned this the other day when we were in another city. After 35 meetings you kind of figure you've heard it all, but every meeting in every part of the country brings some added value, and you certainly didn't disappoint in that respect today. I thank you very much for all the work you put into coming here and presenting to us.
We'll have a short break for five minutes, and then we'll greet our next panel.