But as an important example, from initiation to 13 years later, going through all the proper steps.... One of the reasons for these committee meetings is to be able to turn to Canadians and say, you're okay, we've got it under control, and the government's managing and protecting your health. For a substance like this to be known, and to be known as early as 1993, as not being good for us, and then to take until 2002 and still not have things in place, that element of timeliness is out the window. We cannot turn to Canadians and tell them, your health is being protected, because the process takes so long.