In terms of the energy sector, there are two issues. There's upstream oil and gas. There's the conventional oil and gas sector and the oil sands sector. There are different ways that we can measure pollution, whether it's through intensity targets or hard targets. When it comes to pollution, we would obviously consider hard caps as well.
We will consult with industry, provinces, and territories about all targets, whether short-, medium-, or long-term. Our government will not set arbitrary targets like the previous government did. It's very important that we put in place achievable targets because--