It's not just my ruling. It's also the ruling of the chair, who at that time was Mr. Mills, that in fact the motion was properly before us, which was in the details in the October 17 meeting at that time. There was a ruling that took place, and there was a vote, so we have to proceed with the motion at hand, which has been properly placed before this committee and has been adopted as well by this committee.
You're not a member of this committee and you weren't there at that time, but I want to know whether we're only going to be entertaining points of order all day or whether we're going to get to deal with the real matter before this committee, which in fact has been approved by the committee to be here for discussion. Otherwise, the way we're proceeding is not productive.
Go ahead, Mr. Lukiwski.