Absolutely not. In fact, when I'm talking about a full policy infrastructure, I mean systems up and running and working. You need the interim targets along the way. You absolutely need targets.
We should have renewable energy and energy efficiency strategies with targets for reductions. That's how these things happen. That's why Ontario is now making progress with its energy efficiency mandate. This was a tough one in the past for people to really make progress on.
So we absolutely need targets; we absolutely need systems and standards that are up and running and that work.
But how do you weigh how much you're going to invest in these things? Without the targets and the clear goals, I think it's very, very hard to quantify the level of investment that's needed to get there and to report to the public and the world about how you're doing.
So absolutely, yes.