There's a constant running debate about whether the Kyoto 2012 target is possible or not, which seems to have delayed action and delayed certainty in terms of those investments. It takes the attention and energy away from what is needed, which is the implementation of the regime that Mr. Bertrand and others have talked about, or the government's coming up with the fiscal measures needed by the companies you represent.
The reason I'm asking this is that I'm looking at the press reports and releases from earlier that talk about a $20 billion or 20% of GDP loss if we were to meet Kyoto targets, and it seems, in a sense--and I am saying this with due respect--a bit irresponsible, because then we dive back into the debate of a yes or no as to whether we achieve 2012, when really the focus must be to at least attempt. I don't know if a sincere attempt has been made yet by the main actors.