I hope it will be more than one question, though I know time isn't going to permit that.
Mr. Glover has sort of fed into where I'm going. We have sister acts in the United States, and in the case of CEPA we have the Toxic Substances Control Act, which is the sister act that complements what they want to do in terms of the control of pesticides and these various matters we're talking about today.
Coming from the agricultural side, the PMRA is the agency we've looked to as the body, through Health Canada and Agriculture Canada, and because there is so much overlap, we've found it very inefficient. For nine years, basically, we have gone very little distance. We're now making some progress in terms of what we do.
Speaking as someone who is from the agrarian side, because there is this view in the broader society and given that there are people who want to go the organic route, how do we find a blend of people's thinking in terms of what we can and can't use? We have farmers in the United States who are producing fresh fruits and vegetables, apples in particular, who are able to use certain products that we can't use in Canada, yet we bring the product into Canada. There's an argument that can be made here as to how this can be.
Do we at times take product off the shelf that is no longer permitted to be used in Canada? The Americans can still use it, and until we find a new product to complement that, we simply don't have anything to take care of that. It puts our people in a very precarious situation. I think we have to be considerate of those kinds of things.
How can we better deal with that? You know what's happening at Health Canada in terms of the PMRA, the number of products and the number of use permits that have been requested. We don't have the volume of use here. Obviously it's not possible many times to have the companies interested in putting product into Canada, because there just isn't the volume.