The point I'd really make is that I didn't and wouldn't wish to describe myself as an environmentalist. I think that is a term that has all sorts of baggage around it. The role of the office, the role that I and my predecessor have essentially carved out, is a very broad one, which is looking at environmental sustainability in the whole of society, in the whole of the economy. So we do a lot of linking and a lot of thinking more in the sustainable development context. That's certainly what I've done ever since I've been in the office.
You cannot think of the environmental piece without linking it to the rest, as we all understand, but we all know that the bottom line sits in our natural capital systems. That's what we're grappling with, and the biggest expression, of course, is climate change.