I'll say 12:45. If we can deal with it quickly, we may go back to more of CEPA.
So we'll go on. Let's get ready to do CEPA.
I guess we'll be going in camera for that. In fact, I'm not guessing, we will be. We were not in camera before, even though we didn't have any audience here. Now we go in camera.
[Proceedings continue in camera]
[Public proceedings resume]