Mr. Bigras, you voted in favour of the Kyoto Protocol. You are persevering. You are defending the same viewpoint. These are mechanisms, that is true!
In the Kyoto Protocol, which you supported, which you signed on to, intellectually, these mechanisms were part of it. So I don't think it's unfair to say that at all.
I've acknowledged at this committee, I think very clearly, that personally I would like to see real reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. I've also said...and you say the opposition “parties”--in plural--in your response. Mr. Dion had a plan where he was guaranteeing the price of carbon at $15, and taxpayers would subsidize it if it were above $15. That was exactly in Stéphane Dion's plan. Stéphane Dion had a plan that the polluter did not pay, the taxpayers paid for the big polluters. And I disagree with that.