Yes, I think the scrap-it program was again an idea brought forward by the Green Budget Coalition and the Clean Air Foundation. It is actually provides quick and immediate gratification for reducing greenhouse gases.
When we met with the auto industry and the union, in some of the meetings, the Canadian Auto Workers' president, Buzz Hargrove, told me it takes 37 new cars built today to equal the emissions of one car from 25 years ago. We can have a program that will assist in getting those old cars off the road, and that will encourage and provide an incentive for that type of behaviour.
Some in the industry are already doing it through the car heaven program, and GM has signed on. The Clean Air Foundation has some great ideas, which they're already doing now, on what we can do to partner with them so that we don't have to reinvent the wheel and we can go farther and faster.
Of course, the great benefit is that you get twin benefits for greenhouse gases and air pollutants, which represents the integrated approach that we like.