He talked about setting standards and that sort of thing, which is really essential here--setting intensity-based standards for industry and then pushing them on developing countries. That won't get us to the kinds of numbers we're talking about, and I don't think he's claiming it will. The question is whether we'll go with the science and try to avoid the worst impacts of climate change or not. If so, we will have to deal with the science, the timing, and the numbers there.
It's a mission of getting there with the least cost and in the most economically optimal and favourable way, as opposed to saying, “Let's do intensity”, or “Let's set a few standards and let things fall out where they will until the developing countries come along”. We have to work backwards from the science and find the optimum way to get there, in our interests, as well as cost-effectively.
I think he's looking at a different scenario altogether, where he's not taking the science and factoring that in. He's looking at the economics from the point of view of industry and what it can cope with. I understand that, but it's not going to solve the problem.