Okay--reduce, subject to the ultimate objectives of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.
Now, we have to make sure that we have the major emitters involved. The negotiations are ongoing. So we have to be very careful. At this point, the negotiations have just begun; they're building that framework for post-2012, and we don't have those. Again, we have Bill C-377 with nothing, no substance to it. They're grasping at straws.
I'm very concerned about the phoniness of this bill.