Evidence of meeting #32 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was godfrey.

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4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

Are there any other comments?

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK

In concluding my remarks, perhaps Mr. Godfrey or somebody else might think of some creative ways to kind of work around or address this issue to some degree without actually remunerating these people, but still honour them, recognize them, and affirm them in doing some pretty important jobs, in my view.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

We're talking, then, about L-9, on page 18. I think everyone knows what we're adding to that, or changing.

(Amendment agreed to)

(Clause 7 as amended agreed to)

(On clause 8--Preparation)

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

We'll move on to clause 8. We have a number of amendments here: G-9, G-10, L-10, L-11, L-12, L-13, and L-14.

We shall begin then with G-9 on page 19. I should add that if G-9 is adopted, G-10 cannot be put. There's a line conflict. I don't think you're going to keep track of all of this. We'll ask the clerks to help us do that.

I'll just read it, and then we can work our way through it. There's a line conflict with L-10, L-11, L-12, L-13, and L-14. If G-9 or G-10 are adopted, L-10, L-11, L-12, L-13, and L-14 cannot be put.

As I say, I think rather than everybody trying to remember all of that, we should begin by working our way through this. Unless you want me to repeat that much more slowly and....

There are some problems with the different amendments.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

You are saying there's a conflict, Chair. After we deal with amendment G-9--

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

If we deal with amendment G-9 and it's adopted, then amendment G-10 cannot be put, and now we have line conflicts in some of the other amendments.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

Could we have a five-minute recess?

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

Sure. Everybody is just looking at these specifically.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

I guess part of it is whether they are going to go with amendment G-9 or amendment G-10, because they have submitted both of them.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

That is what they have to resolve.

Do you see what's happening there? Amendment G-9 and amendment G-10 replace the whole clause, so obviously then all of the other ones don't....

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

Yes, but there's only one.... I was planning to do some withdrawing anyway. It's all good. There's only one there that I'm questioning.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

We will take five minutes.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

Order. Does everybody know where we are? We're on clause 8, and we're dealing with government amendment G-9 on page 19. You haven't moved it yet.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

I so move.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

Is this amendment G-9 or G-10?

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

I think it has to be amendment G-9, because we've already decided on the three years instead of five.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

No, you'd have to go to amendment G-10.

4:55 p.m.

Bloc

Marcel Lussier Bloc Brossard—La Prairie, QC

It's amendment G-10.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

They're exactly the same except for the numbers, aren't they?

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

We want amendment G-10, which is the three years.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

Yes.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

Then you are withdrawing amendment G-9?

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

Hold on. I believe amendment G-9 says five years and amendment G-10 says three years.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Maurice Vellacott Conservative Saskatoon—Wanuskewin, SK

That's right, but they refer to two different aspects to be adopted under the three years. It's not the same.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bob Mills

The wording is the same.