Evidence of meeting #33 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Normand Radford
Marie-Andrée Roy  Parliamentary Counsel (Legislation), Office of the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel
Joann Garbig  Legislative Clerk, Committees Directorate, House of Commons

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Okay.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

And then we'll go on and move this additional amendment.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Let's start with amendment G-14.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

Amendment G-14 is self-explanatory. We've moved from “National” to “Federal”, and that's what this does.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

So you're sticking with amendment G-14, or is that incorporated in the new one?

Are you saying to us that the motion you're going to propose will not need us to proceed with amendments G-14, L-15, L-15.1, L-15.2, L-16, and L-17? That's my understanding.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

You're absolutely right, Chair.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Okay.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

Maybe procedurally I would be amending or subamending--

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

But before you do, I gather that procedurally we would normally strike all these others.... Actually it's just a question of not moving them, isn't it?

Okay, we'd have to ask each of you to say you're not going ahead with these other amendments. But why don't you read it so that people are clear? Don't move it at the moment--move it shortly--but read it for the moment.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

Okay. I move that Bill C-474, in clause 11, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 16 on page 7 with the following:

11(1) each minister presiding over a department named in Schedule 1 to the Financial Administration Act, or an agency named in Schedule 1--

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

You can't assume we're going to strike down the existing schedule 1 until we get there.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

It will have to be amended after the fact.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

Yes, that will have to be cleaned up afterwards.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

At this point it's reading “Schedule 2”, but it will be amended later to “Schedule 1”.

So after the comma it reads:

or an agency named in Schedule 2 of this Act shall cause the department or agency to prepare a sustainable development strategy containing objectives and plans for the department or agency that complies with and contributes to the Federal Sustainable Development Strategy, appropriate to the department or agency's mandate and shall cause the strategy to be laid before the House of Commons within one year after the Federal Sustainable Development Strategy is tabled in that House under Section 9.

(2) A minister to whom subsection (1) applies shall cause the department's sustainable development strategy to be updated at least once every three years and shall cause each updated strategy to be laid before the House of Commons on any of the next 15 days on which that House is sitting after the strategy is updated.

(3) The Governor in Council may, on the recommendation of a minister presiding over a department not named in Schedule 1 to the Financial Administration Act, or agency named in Schedule 2 of this Act, direct that the requirements of subsections (1) and (2) apply in respect of the department or agencies.

(4) The Governor in Council may, on the recommendation of the minister, make regulations prescribing the form in which sustainable development strategies are to be prepared and the information requirement to be contained in them.

So that will be replacing what we have as G-1, and procedurally--

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

With respect to the last line, “to be contained in them”, should that be “required”?

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

You're right, “required to be contained in them”.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Thank you, Mr. Warawa.

Having heard that, now I'll ask if those who submitted the various amendments would indicate that they're not going to proceed.

I think you've already indicated that you're not going to proceed with G-14, so I can strike that.

The next one on my list is L-15.1.

Mr. Godfrey.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

Sorry, let me check. I have a couple of minor suggestions. Just hang on a second.

This is a technical issue, and I'll ask folks whether this makes sense or not. The suggestion I'm getting for the first line is:

Each minister presiding over a category 1 department within the meaning of the Auditor General Act

--and then you carry on with--

named in Schedule 1 to the Financial Administration Act

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

What is category 1?

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON

We have a definition...hang on a second.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Can anybody tell us what departments are named in category 1?

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

The list is in the Financial Administration Act, isn't it?

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

By the way, here's the Auditor General Act in front of me, and it says:

“category I department” means

(a) any department named in Schedule I to the Financial Administration Act,

(b) any department in respect of which a direction has been made under subsection 24(3)

It directs that the requirements of subsections (1) and (2) apply in respect of the department. This is about what strategies you have to table in relation to the Auditor General's work.

The Auditor General Act continues:

(c) any department set out in the schedule;

That isn't all that helpful to me, I'm afraid, but I appreciate the effort.

Mr. Warawa.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC

Could we have a moment just to consider the suggestions of Mr. Godfrey?

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Mr. Cullen.