Evidence of meeting #33 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
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5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan
That's the indication I'm getting.
Look, the question really is whether there's a point of order, and I do not find there's a point of order because I think I've answered your question.
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
It must have been a point of order to answer it, so....
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan
I don't find it a valid point of order, so I think we should get back to the matter at hand, if you don't mind. I don't find the objection valid, so let's continue, if you don't mind, with clause 13.
Mr. Godfrey, do you wish to propose L-19?
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan
What you may wish to do is propose it as a new clause following clause 12.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON
I guess we're going to be getting rid of clause 13 as we know it.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan
So you're proposing that we get rid of clause 13, and those who wish to get rid of it will vote no to the following question: shall clause 13 carry?
(Clause 13 negatived)
(On clause 14--Petitions to the Commissioner)
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
Mark Warawa Conservative Langley, BC
Chair, I would ask that clause 14 be stood. There will be core amendments in clause 18 that will deal with clause 14.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS
Is it agreed that clause 14 be allowed to stand?
(Clause 14 allowed to stand)
(On clause 15--Regulations)
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan
I see reference to L-21, but it is a separate proposition, not part of clause 15, I understand. It would be clause 15.1. So first we deal with whether or not 15 shall carry.
Clause 15 reads:
The Governor in Council may make regulations for the purpose of achieving any of the goals of this Act.
Is there any debate on clause 15? Shall clause 15 carry?
(Clause 15 agreed to)
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan
Mr. Godfrey, I believe you want to propose a new clause 15.1, and we're therefore at L-21 on page 41 of the old package.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
John Godfrey Liberal Don Valley West, ON
This was very much at the suggestion of the Auditor General's office, that we provide some transitional provision because of the changes that are going to be made to the Auditor General Act. This is coming into force and all the rest of it. This is simply a technical amendment to allow the transition period when we're altering that act by this act.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan
For instance, you're referring to section 19, which is not yet part of the bill.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan
That's an important point.
There's a question about 11(2), which refers to “The directions made under subsection 24(3) of the Auditor General Act”, etc., “remain in force and are deemed to have been made under subsection 11(2) of this Act”. Is that still...? That's 15.1. Is 11(2) still the right clause for that to refer to? That's the question. Having changed clause 11, we have to look at Mr. Warawa's amendment.
5:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Geoff Regan
So should it be (3), which of course is that “The Governor in Council may, on the recommendation of the Minister,” add that minister's department or agency? Does that mean that your L-21, instead of saying in the last line, “been made under subsection 11(2)”, would say “made under subsection 11(3)”? That would be what you're going to move, isn't it?
5:25 p.m.
Liberal