Evidence of meeting #10 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was health.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Cynthia Wright  Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Stewardship Branch, Department of the Environment
John Cooper  Director, Water, Air and Climate Change Bureau, Healthy Environments and Consumer Safety Branch, Department of Health
Wadieh Yacoub  Medical Officer, Director, Health Protection, First Nations and Inuit Health, Alberta Region, Department of Health
Albin Tremblay  Chief Enforcement Officer, Department of the Environment
Fred Wrona  Acting Director General, Water Science and Technology, Department of the Environment
Roy Kwiatkowski  Director, Environmental Health Research Division, First Nations and Inuit Health Branch, Department of Health

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Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Stewardship Branch, Department of the Environment

Cynthia Wright

Yes, I don't have those figures today. A lot of that would be the province looking at the flow, but Environment Canada provides the information on what the ecological effects might be if there is a lowering of the water flow. So we provide that information and then the Alberta government uses that information in setting its permits for water withdrawals.

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Bloc

Bernard Bigras Bloc Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

Could you—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Your time is up.

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Bloc

Bernard Bigras Bloc Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, QC

No, it's not a question.

Could you table those reports with the committee, if they are available?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Certainly if there is something you can share with the committee, I would ask that you forward it as part of your homework.

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Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Not if there is.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Mrs. Wright, is there a report you would be able to share with the committee?

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Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Stewardship Branch, Department of the Environment

Cynthia Wright

On the impacts of water withdrawals?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Yes.

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Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Stewardship Branch, Department of the Environment

Cynthia Wright

Yes, I'm sure we could find one.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Thank you very much.

Ms. Duncan, the floor is yours.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

To the Department of Health, it is my understanding that over the last 10 years there have been at least half a dozen requests to Health Canada to undertake health studies and there have been responses by Health Canada. Could Health Canada provide to the committee the information on those requests and the replies provided?

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Medical Officer, Director, Health Protection, First Nations and Inuit Health, Alberta Region, Department of Health

Dr. Wadieh Yacoub

The municipality of Fort Chip is part of the provincial jurisdiction, and our work with Fort Chip was in collaboration and partnership with Fort Chip.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

With all due respect, Dr. Yacoub, I'm well aware that both the Dene nation, the community of Fort Chip--

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Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I've heard witnesses being interrupted a number of times in the middle of an answer and I think I just heard it again. It seems to me to be inappropriate and unfair to the witness. I would like to hear the whole answer the witness has to give before another question is asked.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Mr. Woodworth, you have a good point of order, because in chapter 20 of Marleau and Montpetit, page 863, it says: “Members have been urged to display 'the appropriate courtesy and fairness' when questioning witnesses”.

So Ms. Duncan, I'd ask that you show that courtesy and fairness to our witnesses.

Mr. Yacoub, you may respond.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I would encourage you to answer quickly so I can continue.

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Medical Officer, Director, Health Protection, First Nations and Inuit Health, Alberta Region, Department of Health

Dr. Wadieh Yacoub

As I responded in an earlier question, as soon as we were informed by Dr. O'Connor of his concerns specifically in March 2006, we immediately reacted by proposing and working to implement a cluster investigation. We assembled the team to respond to that study immediately. That work ultimately resulted in the Alberta Cancer Board's study that was released in 2009. That is the only study we have been approached to deal with.

I have received no other information that suggested we would work with them on any other study. This is the main concern that was relayed to the public health officer in this case. And as you probably know, the public health system in Alberta is a seamless system, so if any other concerns had come through any other agency we would be collaborating.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Dr. Yacoub, I'm not querying the efficacy of the study that you did or the fact that you did the study. My question is not related to that.

It's my understanding over the last 10 years that there have been at least a half a dozen requests by the Dene, by the community in Fort Chip, through a petition to the Commissioner for Sustainable Development. I'm simply asking if you could provide, for the edification of the committee, the requests that have been received and what the reply was that was provided. This is not the specific studies that you've undertaken, but simply the requests that you've received and the responses you have given.

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Medical Officer, Director, Health Protection, First Nations and Inuit Health, Alberta Region, Department of Health

Dr. Wadieh Yacoub

I have not received any requests in first nations and Inuit health. If other requests have been sent, they probably never came to first nations and Inuit health. Perhaps they have come to other branches of Health Canada. As you are probably aware, Health Canada is a member of many groups like CEMA and--

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Perhaps you can inquire?

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Medical Officer, Director, Health Protection, First Nations and Inuit Health, Alberta Region, Department of Health

Dr. Wadieh Yacoub

I certainly could inquire.

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Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I'm sure I heard the witness being interrupted in the middle of a sentence. I want to hear the witness's whole answer.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

I agree, Mr. Woodworth.

Again, Ms. Duncan, I ask that you show courteousness to our witnesses.

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NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I am being very courteous.