Yes. The Pembina Institute has always held the position that oil sands development could proceed responsibly.
The key thing is that we should have planned first before we developed it. We should have set environmental rules. We should have dealt with greenhouse gases. We should have protected the Athabasca River. We should have established a land use plan. We should have prohibited tailings and said that you can do it once you can demonstrate that you can get this out of the ground without creating this liability that we don't know how to deal with.
Pembina Institute has never held the perspective that we're anti-oil-sands--