It seems to me that one of the challenges with something like greenhouse gas emissions is that if you don't have a system for counting or measuring, you simply can't manage the program. You can't tell what's effective, what's not effective. You can't come forward to Canadians and say that we spent this much money and reduced this amount of greenhouse gas emissions and that this was better and this was worse. Is that a fair statement?
On May 26th, 2009. See this statement in context.