I had a little bit of a check about where the testimony was going. It now creeps into the purview of what's in cabinet's purview to do or not do in rendering such.... I think this crosses the line somewhat, and I support the point of order by Mr. Warawa. I think the witness needs to be cautioned to come back to the issue. I think it's fair enough to talk about the membership of COSEWIC, but when you start to get into a decision by cabinet, I think how they approach that particular decision is not within the purview of the witness.