When we speak about the legislation, an important part of SARA is the establishment of an independent review body, COSEWIC, and great lengths have been gone to in the legislation to ensure that it be a scientifically, rigorously appointed panel and study removed from all politics. The exercise of COSEWIC's functions and the utility of SARA as an act are dependent upon the quality of the science that comes forward from COSEWIC. Therefore, talking about the membership of COSEWIC and the process by which these expert scientists are chosen independently of politics is the very crux of SARA and COSEWIC. To not hear about that, however embarrassing it may be, is completely wrong.