I don't think that's an accurate statement on what CAPP believes. I was a biologist first, and then I became a lawyer. I became a lawyer to protect endangered species. I worked on various iterations of the bill. I completely believe that we do need to protect endangered species, but you need to create a proper framework so that it can occur. We're not trying to say that we want SARA to be diluted and ineffective; we're saying the opposite.
Right now it's ineffective. Sixty-nine species have recovery plans, out of 260. We're saying if you work with us, using the same methods as your own reports have come to, the same conclusions.... SARAC itself wanted to move towards an ecosystem-based approach.