Okay. We'll do two rounds.
Before we move on to the witness, I want to make sure the committee is aware that yesterday we had a lunch where we honoured our clerk, Norm Radford, for his long and distinguished service to Parliament and the great work he has done on the environment committee. We want to wish him well in his future endeavours as he moves on to the next chapter of his life in the field of retirement--or at least retired away from this place. He has served us well and has a passion for the environment. We're going to miss him greatly.