So in the Kyoto negotiations, in fact, I think that's well understood. The key point, I think, about the 2020 goal is that the government has said it does not propose to make significant use of either offset credits or emissions trading under article 17 of the Kyoto Protocol. In other words, it's a domestic reduction pathway, and in that regard, I think it is comparable to what's being proposed by others.
On October 22nd, 2009. See this statement in context.