In every legislative instrument that's being contemplated in Washington right now, Mr. Bramley, I understand that the contemplated cost of carbon is somewhere between $15 to $30 a tonne by 2020. It's one thing for the government to say it's harmonizing its design features with Washington. It's an entirely different matter to talk about price conformity.
How would we drive...for example, under the government's plan, which you just indicated cannot be met given the basket of measures they have put forward so far. There's no revelation in that; I think that has been obvious for a while. You're also saying that the price of carbon here would range anywhere from $100 to $200 a tonne. How would we be able to do that with that kind of pricing level in Canada when the Americans are contemplating a maximum price of $30 a tonne in the same timeframe?