Okay.
Mr. Lazar, can you help us understand? Mr. Woodworth continues to resurrect the ghost of some plan that's disappeared. Perhaps you can help us understand. Under this former plan, which has evaporated, the regulations were promised three years ago and then they were promised this fall. Now they've been delayed indefinitely by the minister, who is announcing that Copenhagen will fail. Can you help us understand what the price of carbon will be? Have you seen any numbers, metrics, analysis, akin to what we saw last week by two NGOs financed by TD Bank? What will the price of energy be under Mr. Woodworth's so-called plan? What effects will it have on the price of electricity and energy, not only for your sector but for Canadians? Have you seen a plan?