With all due respect, Mr. Chairman, CEMA has come under considerable criticism as a process. All but one NGO have pulled out, all the first nations have pulled out. Even the senior advisers to the Government of Alberta have recommended that there not be reliance on CEMA any longer. I'm frankly amazed to discover that DFO is relying on CEMA. If we're going to look at those, I want to have some assurance that we're going to hear from the NGOs and the scientists who have raised the concerns about the processes we're relying on.
The other one would be RAMP. Mr.Woodworth had a very good question. It's my understanding that RAMP is doing the water quality and water quantity studies. That's a 100% industry-funded program, whereas CEMA does biodiversity, air pollution, everything. So we might want to be looking at--