Yes. Good.
I'd like to focus on socio-economic factors. You said, if I understood you correctly, that it should be done at the earliest stage. We've heard from the department that a species is identified through COSEWIC as being at risk. At that point, scientifically it's identified that the numbers are of concern, and it would then go to the minister.
When it's at the early stages, it's totally scientific, there are totally biological numbers. There are no socio-economic factors in that decision. It's just this species could be in trouble. When it goes to the minister and to cabinet, at that time there are socio-economic factors. Then at the latter stage, when critical habitat is identified, again, socio-economic factors are not considered.
Could you elaborate more at what stages you would see—at the beginning stages and the middle stages and the ending stages?