Gerard Kennedy at the Environment and Sustainable Development Committee

I won't ask you for the details of that, but the argument wasn't successful, is what you're saying.

There have been deputations here that suggest that certain charter rights might overrule here—right to liberty and.... I won't try to quote which sections. But has any assessment been done as to how effective this particular couching of rights under the bill of rights could be?

I'm asking here, not from a policy standpoint but from a purely legal standpoint, your knowledge of these other workings, these other applications of the bill of rights, the chances of some of the things being proposed here being overruled by the charter. Or is that speculative to ask you?