They're issues that public servants are struggling with as well. We have an example that our colleague from Parks spoke to, about trying to take an ecosystem approach. We have a couple in Fisheries, where we've tried to do it and lumped together species into one recovery plan, one recovery strategy for both.
You've asked us about the lessons learned. The big lesson learned is that it does require partnerships to be able to address these issues. We don't have all the jurisdictions or all the means to be able to address it. The incentives to get partners to the table, given some of the prescriptive nature of the act, has been a challenge.
That said, it is an act that is supposed to be protecting species. That's the balance that I think John is referring to. A couple of people have spoken to a couple of examples. On the Columbia River, for example, some of the partners we've worked with have provided an enormous amount of funds and support to be able to reintroduce or support species at risk, and yet our act suggests that if one fish--a 1.8, I think, in this case--is lost a year, then they are potentially charged. It does make it somewhat difficult for them to be at the table.
That said, we do have good partners. We do have good relationships. It can always be better, and that's the challenge we're facing.