You are saying the same thing over again, about what will happen in 2020. But that's not what I want you to talk about. I'm saying that the minister said that there were reductions, but your site shows increases.
I would like to come back to another topic. The environmental commissioner said that you had no plan to offset climate change. I'm not talking about GHGs, but climate change. So, what is the basis, in your department, for engaging in significant spending on climate change if you have no plan?
Let me give you an example. The minister just talked about actions that will be taken to reduce automobile emissions. Not a word about a general plan for using public transit, such as trains. Nothing, as if trains didn't exist! You do often make reference to the United States, but just for cars. But we know quite well that the Obama administration is heavily promoting trains. In Canada, don't we know that the train has worked before?