As an example, I can have a fisheries scientist take the COSEWIC model and come up with a decision, a recommendation, that this species is threatened. They've done that just recently with American plaice. The same scientist goes with the other model, and this model on American plaice is saying that the stock status is, if you will, in the red zone. All the indicators right now are up and....
On April 15th, 2010. See this statement in context.