I think we agree with everything Mr. Barnes said. Our perspective on this is not a simple one in the sense that we don't think the current process is a good one. We think a pure inclusion list may not be workable in itself, though, because just because there's a project....
Let's just use the criteria. What criteria would you use? I'll stick to electricity. Let's say, as in Manitoba, anything over 200 megawatts needs to have a full-scale environmental assessment in the federal system. I just use that as a possible example. Well, there could be projects that currently aren't even subject to the federal triggers and don't have a lot of environmental impact.
So you need to have something more than just a list of projects, because it would be very hard to define the characteristics that would then cause you to include these projects.
We have actually an expert from our association, Pierre Lundahl, who spent decades on environmental assessment. If you wish, Mr. Chair, I can ask him to supplement that answer. He has a lot more experience on this particular topic.