Thanks for the question.
I've been sitting here listening to a lot of discussion about aboriginal consultation. Let me make one thing clear. With respect, I don't know of any federal legislative requirements that fulfill the duty to consult—I understand it's done on a policy basis. I'm not quite sure what that policy is.
The second point I want to make is that when we talk about consultation in this room, I've heard about the Red Chris case and the Moses case, and AFN raised the Haida and Taku cases as well. These are all Supreme Court of Canada cases that directly impact the specific projects. I would suggest to you that by not actually having anything within the legislative framework, and by not having first nations involved in the policy development framework, everything is being kicked out to litigation. That's really bad for first nations, obviously, and we've heard that it's bad for industry.
With respect to the Matawa case, that's a scoping issue, just like the Red Chris case was. As I understand, it is now in the courts, and I see that as a failure. I understand they wanted a review panel. I don't know what kinds of discussions or what kind of feed-in they had to the decision to do a comprehensive study. I don't know if they were making reasonable suggestions or not; I assume they were. The point of the matter now is any kind of discussion on that situation is moot until it runs through a court process. This is another one that could well end up in the Supreme Court of Canada. I don't think that's really good for anybody.