We also heard from a lot of witnesses that we should support and build upon existing successful conservation measures. There are successful, great stories out there. We saw a lot of them yesterday when we did our tour on the island, and we saw the great stories that are out there. I'm just wondering if our witnesses here would be willing to share with us some successful programs they've seen and outline what it is about those programs that they see as being at the core of the program being a success. I don't want you to get into big details—we don't have time for that—but just give a quick overview.
Maybe, Mr. Ellis, you could share with us initially on that, a program that you've seen as successful and why you believe it was very successful.