Again, I think we're quite blessed at the Calgary Zoo. We are set along the river, and we have beautiful trees. I think having that more naturalistic, green environment does make people more receptive to the environment.
I think traditionally the Victorian-era zoos were far more formal. I think now, as we look more holistically at issues in terms of conservation, we're not just interested in species; we're interested in the environment of those species, where they come from.
The structure of zoos is becoming more naturalistic, and I think the same should be true of urban parks. There are environmental opportunities in managing urban parks in a slightly more relaxed, naturalistic way that I think have conservation benefits in themselves but also make people more receptive to conservation messages, because they reflect more accurately the natural environment than very well-mowed lawns and formal flowerbeds do.